Cover Jonathan Frolich is the managing director of Carlyle and Co (Photo: Zed Leets/Tatler Hong Kong)

Jonathan Frolich has worked for the Hyatt and Andaz in both North America and the Asia-Pacific region. Now, as managing director of Carlyle & Co, Frolich is tasked with leading the concept, development, design delivery and executional operation of the club

Private members’ club Carlyle & Co has become a hub for connection and inspiration. Born from Rosewood Hong Kong CEO Sonia Cheng’s vision, Carlyle & Co celebrated its three-year anniversary in June, unveiling three weeks of events and curated experiences. We speak to the club’s managing director Jonathan Frolich about his leadership style and why Lenny Kravitz is on his wish list of performers.

With over 20 years in global hospitality, how have your previous experiences shaped your approach to managing Carlyle & Co?
Carlyle & Co is really all about experiences and experience design. To create these unexpected experiences takes a lot of thought, strategy, innovation and creativity. I used to work for the Hyatt for many years, beginning in Adelaide in Australia, where I was born—I actually started as a bellboy in that hotel when I was doing my hospitality management degree— then I worked in the Park Hyatt in Sydney, then in Los Angeles, then Hong Kong for the first time, [from] 2007 for two years. Then I was sent to the corporate office of Hyatt in Chicago. I became the general manager for the then newly built Andaz on Fifth Avenue in New York City. The beauty of this role was that it was my first go at brand creation and journey mapping. It’s all about crafting experiences that are unique and special—at the core of hospitality is creating memorable moments for people that really last. That might sound simple, but it’s not, because you’re dealing with people’s emotions. 

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Above Jonathan Frolich is the managing director of Carlyle and Co (Photo: Zed Leets/Tatler Hong Kong)

Was heading a members’ club always the goal?
Not in the early days; I was super passionate about hotels. Private members’ clubs only really came up later in my career through an opportunity with Rosewood, which was looking for somebody to help drive this new concept. I always want to grow and stretch myself and, after 23 years of working in hotels, I felt I needed another challenge. Hospitality is my calling, but I wanted to find something that was tangential to hotels but still allowed me to express my hospitality passion. With Carlyle & Co, I really felt like I had to go back to school and adopt a student mindset, because it’s a fundamentally different business to hotels. I really needed to learn and understand how the business worked in order to try to make it successful.

Café Carlyle—Hong Kong’s tribute to the legendary jazz bar at the Carlyle in New York—celebrates its third anniversary this month. How would you describe the journey from inception to now?
It’s been an amazing experience. Café Carlyle within Carlyle & Co is only the second Café Carlyle in the world. Café Carlyle in New York has been around for almost 70 years as an icon of entertainment, cabaret and live music. The journey [in Hong Kong] started with being extremely respectful, careful and intentional in our approach to ensure that we maintained the [standards] that Café Carlyle has set for a live music venue. We were aiming to raise the bar for live music and entertainment in Hong Kong; that was our north star. It’s about the act of storytelling; the connection with the audience; the design; the close seating and style of service. It’s about having the right balance between international acts that have never been to Hong Kong before and celebrating the best musical talent across Hong Kong. 

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Above Jonathan Frolich is the managing director of Carlyle and Co (Photo: Zed Leets/Tatler Hong Kong)

What have been some of the most memorable moments at Café Carlyle so far?
We were lucky enough to have Judith Hill and Lisa Fischer, two incredible singers that were both in the Academy Award-winning documentary 20 Feet From Stardom (2013). They have been backing singers for top acts around the world including the Rolling Stones, Tina Turner, Sting etc. We were also very lucky to work with [Hong Kong singer] Jill Vidal, who did a two- week residency here. It was such a wonderful, intimate story about her life, upbringing, the influence of her father and music. One night, her sister Janice came in with a couple of other well-known singers and created a Café Carlyle moment that you can’t really manufacture. It was truly memorable.

The club’s anniversary celebrations featured collaborations with performers, artists and F&B aces. How do you choose who to collaborate with?
Our mission has always been to use our platform as a means of curating incredible talent based on the needs of our members. For example, we know that Singapore’s 28 Hong Kong Street cocktail bar and Bangkok’s Tropic City bar were among our member favourites, so when the opportunity presented itself, we seized it [and invited them to do takeovers].

The other aspect of our collaborations is that we always stay true to our vision. Using our third anniversary as an example, [American singer-songwriter] Peter Cincotti epitomised our approach to music and entertainment; our fabulous live art experience with [British] artist Clym Evernden brought our approach to art and culture to life; our pop-ups with chefs Max Mascia and Antonio Bachour, and with the team of 28 Hong Kong Street embodied our view towards drinking and dining. Everything we do for our members has a deeper strategy and purpose that connects it all together, and brings to life our vision of ensuring that members really get to live life, indulge a little—or in some cases overindulge. 

Who would you love to see perform at Café Carlyle?
Hopefully he reads this: Lenny Kravitz. In the 2018 documentary Always at the Carlyle, Lenny is interviewed and he mentions that one of his heroes is Bobby Short, who was a famous singer at Café Carlyle for more than 30 years. Lenny says his father used to bring him to Café Carlyle and that it was such an incredible influence on his life. In 2018, he said he wasn’t ready [to perform at Café Carlyle], but he’ll know when the time is right. I think he would be amazing.

What leadership qualities do you believe are essential for managing your team at Carlyle & Co?
I have a passion for challenging conventional wisdom and going against the status quo. It’s important for me to be very open-minded, curious, flexible and, most importantly, empathetic and understanding. I hope to create an environment where people are free to express their thoughts and opinions. It’s also important to establish clear objectives and goals together, so that we all know where we’re going. I’m kind of obsessed with strategy. I will always put the customer experience at the centre of everything. We should always ask ourselves: why we are doing this? What’s the benefit? Is it connected to our overarching intention and strategy? I think a healthy dose of obsession is important.

What legacy do you hope to leave behind?
My legacy is about creating an incredible community around the globe, and nurturing and loving the communities so that those people have a better life through Carlyle and Co. Whether that’s learning something new, finding escape, meeting new friends or creating memorable moments—at the core of it all, the aim is for people to leave happier than when they came in. Ultimately, I want to have enriched people’s lives.

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Photography  

Zed Leets. Retouching by Tsin Jove Li

Photographer's Assistant  

Carlos Hui

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